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Posted Saturday, February 12, 2011 8:11:48 AM
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I am still getting landed of runway surface errors alot today I flew from KRYN to KTUS with flight plan to land at 29L in the plan I flew well out and high then turned in for a long final the instructor Mr Smith did not call out the runwaay at 500ft ? I also flew a flight from KGVQ to KROC with flight plan and real weather where all was good Mr Smith did call out runway at 500 feet but as I got closer to the intersecting runway 25 he changed his mind to 25 the wind was between thee 2 and I have the Cessna pack installed, I reflew this without real weather calm winds no problem good score? WIN 7 64 bit


Aircraft: Cessna    ID: N-757SN    Airline:     Flight:
Flight plan: KRYN TO KTUS :    NAV1: TUS
Failure(s): None at landing
Failure Event(s) (Zulu Time): None
Failure Bonus:0%   Flight Duration:00 Hours   20 Mins   25 Secs

Landing Score:25.80

Landing was successful in the following areas:
* Gentle touchdown.  [89 FPM]
* Good landing speed - not too fast.  [46 KIAS]
* Wings were level.
* Distance from runway threshold (visual approach): [93 feet]
* Glideslope held until flare.
* Good pitch control after touchdown.
* Good pitch at landing.
* With flaps - good job.
* Throttle(s) idle.
* Good controlled final descent to touchdown.
  
Landing included the following problems:
* Poor glideslope on visual approach - you can do better. [40%]
* Poor alignment with runway on visual approach - line up and stay there. [0%]
* Landed without a proper approach OR off runway surface.
* Touch down not aligned with the runway - let's point down the runway.
* Poor steering after landing - stay on the centre line.
Definite room for improvement...


Flight Score:101.22

Flight commended in the following areas:
* Smooth turns.
* Nice banking.
* Correct matching of flaps to speeds.
* Comfortable G forces.
* Smooth pitch control.
* Flown within aircraft's maximum speed limit.
* Gentle taxi turns.
* Good take off steering.
* Rotation was not late.
* Appropriate position of flaps during taxi.
* Safe taxi speed.
* Smooth braking during taxi.
* Smooth climb during takeoff.
* Wings level near ground.
* Well coordinated turns.
* No stalls.
* No flying dangerously close to stall speed.
* Smooth comfortable descent rate.
* Pitch not too high.
* Pitch not too low.
* Flaps down on time.
* Approach speed not too fast.
* Low altitude speeds not too fast.
* Good clearance of obstacles.
  
A smooth flight!

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Posted Sunday, February 13, 2011 2:36:05 AM
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Which runway did you touch down at? LIPZ rwy 04R
Was flight plan loaded into FSFS? YES
If plan loaded - which runway was chosen by you as destination at FSFS flight plan screen? LIPZ 04R
Was NAV1 tuned to a NAVAID? YES
Did instructor announce the runway when you descended below 500 AGL? YES

and here you are the log

Fulvio Orlando piloting C Skylane 182Q ended sabato 5 febbraio 2011 at 13:22
FSFlyingSchool 2011 (Jan 21 2011)
Using: FS2004
Visibility: 4,05 Miles     Wind: 1 Knots

Aircraft: CESSNA ID: N228DL Airline: Flight:
Flight plan: LIPE TO LIPZ : NAV1: VEN
Failure(s): None at landing
Failure Event(s) (Zulu Time): None
Failure Bonus:0% Flight Duration:00 Hours 50 Mins 06 Secs

Landing Score:46,10

Landing was successful in the following areas:

  • Good glideslope on ILS approach. [90%]
  • Good alignment with runway on ILS approach. [70%]
  • Gentle touchdown. [39 FPM]
  • Good landing speed - not too fast. [58 KIAS]
  • Wings were level.
  • Glideslope held until flare.
  • Good pitch control after touchdown.
  • Good pitch at landing.
  • With flaps - good job.
  • Heading aligned with runway.
  • Throttle(s) idle.
  • Good controlled final descent to touchdown.
  • Good steering after landing.


Landing included the following problems:

  • Landed without a proper approach OR off runway surface.

Definite room for improvement...


Flight Score:93,00

Flight commended in the following areas:

  • Smooth turns.
  • Nice banking.
  • Correct matching of flaps to speeds.
  • Comfortable G forces.
  • Smooth pitch control.
  • Flown within aircraft's maximum speed limit.
  • Good take off steering.
  • Rotation was not late.
  • Appropriate position of flaps during taxi.
  • Safe taxi speed.
  • Smooth braking during taxi.
  • Smooth climb during takeoff.
  • Wings level near ground.
  • Well coordinated turns.
  • No stalls.
  • No flying dangerously close to stall speed.
  • Smooth comfortable descent rate.
  • Pitch not too high.
  • Pitch not too low.
  • Flaps down on time.
  • Approach speed not too fast.
  • Low altitude speeds not too fast.
  • Good clearance of obstacles.


Flight included the following problems:

  • Dangerous taxiing turns - these cause discomfort and stress.
  • Poor elevator control during taxi in wind - danger of flipping.
  • Poor aileron control during taxi in wind - danger of flipping.

Definite room for improvement...


 

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Posted Tuesday, February 15, 2011 2:26:36 AM


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Alnor:

Please zip and send your latest FSFS2011.TXT file (which is in your FSX folder) to

support@fsflyingschool.com

Also - let me know what the date and time is on the

FSFSRWYS.exe

file in your

FSX

folder please.

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Posted Wednesday, February 16, 2011 9:26:25 AM
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SquadronLeader (1/28/2011)


We may need to consider editing the aircraft.cfg file to get rid of those flaps. The problem is that the file that came with the aircraftis telling FSFS that the plane has flaps.

Let us look into what type of edit would be needed to do this - it should not be complex. You can make a back-up of the aircraft.cfg file to be safe.


As noted before, the modified aircraft.cfg I recieved screws up the touchdown process somehow that I end up stuck with the tail in the ground. Removing the flaps from the aircraft.cfg without side-effects doesn't seem trivial judging from the (lack of) reply on the A2A support forums.

So if the next FSFS version could simply ignore flaps if every value is "0" (or any other "bandaid" fix you deem useful) that would rock!
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Posted Friday, February 18, 2011 3:19:52 AM


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Andi:

I see what you mean.

We'll see what we can do about (optionally) ignoring any flaps defined in the aircraft.cfg file.

If we make a change we'll keep you posted here.

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Posted Thursday, February 24, 2011 11:18:49 PM
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Well, Sq, i got new issue. When i load new flighplan (i use fs9 cause it runs fine with Ivao. And Ivao+Fsfs is... real as it gets) i see that ILS freq. is gone, all over the Europe. I've rebuilt database but nothing has changed: fsfs can't see if landing airport is ils assisted (neither in LIRF, f.e).  It can see ILS frequency only in "Usa based" flights.
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Posted Friday, February 25, 2011 12:12:10 AM


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I have replied to this in the topic you started called "ILS has gone".

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Posted Sunday, March 13, 2011 8:55:00 AM
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Hi you all,

I too can't get a landing score higher tahn 26.75 with FSFlyingSchool 2011, because of a

systematic "Landed without a proper approach OR off runway surface", even with :

* Good glideslope on ILS approach. [80%]
* Good alignment with runway on ILS approach. [100%]
* Gentle touchdown. [220 FPM]
* Good landing speed - not too fast. [63 KIAS]
* Wings were level.
* Glideslope held until flare.
* Good pitch control after touchdown.
* Good pitch at landing.
* With flaps - good job.
* Heading aligned with runway.
* Throttle(s) idle.
* Good controlled final descent to touchdown.
* Good steering after landing.

Very frustrating, indeed..

Regards

Thierry
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Posted Monday, March 14, 2011 10:21:29 AM


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Hi -

Let's see if we can help!

Are you using a non-English version of Windows?

What version number is FSFS2011?

What date is shown at the credits screen of FSFS2011?

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Posted Monday, March 14, 2011 11:17:27 AM
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Hi SquadronLeader,

Glad you are here, always ready to hear from your pupils.

My Win7- 64 is basically a french one, but turned into english thanks to Vistalizator.
My installed FSFlyingSchool 2011 (the one I've downloaded for a fresh new install 3 days ago) reads : V4.0.4, and the date is : Jan 21 2011.

Thank you for your help.

Thierry
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