If the developers could have made it work, Im quite sure that they would have, long ago. Im sorry, but I think thats the sad truth for you.

But Stan. All the other planes work fine. and we are a couple of guys who fly a little friendly competitive flying (see the FSFS competition section) Was that not a thing for you to join in on? Its great and cool, and very friendly.

Regards
Ole Andreasen, Denmark

I must say that this is very disappointing since my Baron is one of my favorites, and is actually a very popular twin.  How does one get a reaction from the designers of FSFS, or are they locked away in an inaccesible location somewhere?  I'd really like to get a definitive answer from one of their crew.

Anyhow thanks for your efforts which are really appreciated.

Happy flying

Stan

Regards
Ole Andreasen, Denmark

Yup, I understand the problems.  You can't cater for everything.  I can still fly the Baron and get most of the useful instructor comments, but, as I said, its a pity that something doesn't click with my favorite Baron.  You've been very helpful through all this, so thanks for that.  What I DID do was to send an email through the home page of FSFS expressing the problem, and asking them if they could get me a a comment from their design team, so lets leave it at that, and if I get anything useful back, I'll let you know.

By the way, just as a matter of interest, are you just a nice guy who has taken responsibility for the forums or are you part of the FSFS group?  As far as I'm concerned, you certainly satisfy the first category, but I was just wondering what your involvement is with all this as you seem to devote a lot of precious time to helping folks like me.

Regards

Stan

Regards
Ole Andreasen, Denmark

I don't want to harp on this subject, but just have to respond to your last post - remembering that its public - so this is really a message to all our forum members.  What I wanted to say is that I have made so many friends and contacts via our mutual hobby that it is clear that we are a special group of people with a close bond to a common purpose - and that is to enjoy ourselves with a wonderful hobby and to share our knowledge, success and failures in it without any fear of criticism.

FS has done a lot for me.  I actually started with the original Apple version way back when, and continued throught FS2K, FS2002 and now FS9.  (My computer won't handle FSX).  It has taught me the theory and practice of flying aeroplanes, and has improved my geography knowledge.  My wife and I are 5 year immigrants to Canada from South Africa, and it is directly attributable to Holgar Sandmann's wonderful Alaskan scenery that prompted us to take an Alaskan cruise.  Also the great Canadian Rockies scenery and flights - I'm not going to mention all the wonderful contributors, but everybody who has flown these areas knows them - have prompted us to plan to tour the Rockies sometime.  I am also able to indulge my South African nostalgia by flying the excellent SA scenery designed by Aeroworx - and so the list goes on.

I think flightsimming is a really great educational experience for the younger generation, who waste so much time playing endless games of death and destruction with no tangible benefits except to improve their hand/eye coordination - which is not a bad thing, but in my opinion can be better spent.

So to all our fellow simmers I say, lets continue to improve our skills and knowledge in an effort to make this world just a little more meaningful to everybody.

Stan

Regards
Ole Andreasen, Denmark

We received your email, thanks.

I'd like to keep the discussion here on the forum as that way everyone can benefit from the information.

I appreciate that you wrote directly to FSFS to get answers. As you'll have heard from Ole, I am one of the two developers and check the forum almost every day, including public and personal holidays.

If you would like to post any sections from your email here please do so - I have not done so as it was written privately to FSFS.

As Ole explained, we have recognised that the spoiler data is a problem with this aircraft. Have you tried my suggested experiment with the cowl flaps?

Also - please copy and paste the contents of the original FSR file for the plane and also the contents of any FSU file you have created for the plane into a reply to this post so I can examine the data involved, and look at the flaps problem.

As I believe I wrote to another sim-pilot, you can get rid of the spoiler message by deleting the wav file for that instructor, but you'll still lose points.

Ah - I just found this on the forum:

"I guess you could delete (or rename) the file "RetractSpoilers.wav", but that would lose it for all planes of course, and you will still lose a few points (believe me - not many) for having "spoilers deployed" at the wrong time."

See also this post which discusses this issue with a different airplane.

http://www.fsflyingschool.com/forum/FindPost5081.aspx

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Yup I certainly agree that we should share out observations.  I didn't realize that you were a developer and wrote direct to FSFS - thanks for the speedy reply.

Closing the cowl flaps DID resolve the spoiler problem, and my user-defined data has solved the flaps problem.  I went to the AIRCRAFT floder and found that you DON'T have a Dreamfleet Baron 85 but just the LITE version, so now I'm confused.  I have pasted my fsu details below.  (The file attachment problem is still there and my computer freezes when I try and attach a file)  BUT you'll notice it's the same as the fsr version that was detected, although I changed the numbers, and when I connect, my user data is recognized.  I don't understand this.  I can let you have my numbers but will have to go into FS and connect to do so, and unfortunately am rushed for time right now.

Just one more small problem, while I am communicating with you: When I descend during cruise, for whatever reason, or start descending about 35 nm out for an approach, FSFS thinks I'm going to land and immediately instructs me to lower gear and flaps, which is innapropriate at that stage.  I ignore this and continue flying, but FSFS constantly reminds me, and of course I lose points.  How do I handle this situation?

USER-DEFINE BARON 85 (DreamFleet Baron 58 RXP.fsu)

[flaps.0]
flaps-position.1=15
flaps-position.2=30
flaps-position.3=0
flaps-position.4=0
flaps-position.5=0
flaps-position.6=0
flaps-position.7=0
flaps-position.8=0
flaps-position.9=0

[reference speeds]
IASTooFastForFlaps0=152
IASTooFastForFlaps1=122
IASTooFastForFlaps2=0
IASTooFastForFlaps3=0
IASTooFastForFlaps4=0
IASTooFastForFlaps5=0
IASTooFastForFlaps6=0
IASTooFastForFlaps7=0
IASTooFastForFlaps8=0
IASStallCruise=84
IASStallLanding=73
IASSlowDown=88888
MaxGearExtension=152

[misc settings]
RetractableGear=1
MixtureControl=0
Spoilers=0
FloatPlane=0
FlapsDownDuringTaxi=0