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Posted Monday, April 27, 2009 5:25:14 AM
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Tested Demo Version of 2009 before considering full purchase...

I have particular interest in flying the heavy jets, and have found this product useful in analysing flight phases.  However, the Vspeeds differ according to weight/flap configurations and as such is not dynamically calculated.  Is there a way for this to be incorporated?

During some flights, ATC diverts me away from my original flight route and vectors me around an airfield to approach from a different direction.  I guess this is in the absence of FS9 incorporating any approach charts.  Does FSFlying School cater for this deviation in routing, dictated by ATC, and therefore not penalise for veering off course?

I think the general question has been posted elsewhere, but is there any intention for a checklist style instruction being implemented, that is a bit more detailed in checking for altitudes, speed (plus any restrictions due to airspace) etc?  the implementation of which may be aircraft configurable.

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PicoPeck (4/27/2009)
Tested Demo Version of 2009 before considering full purchase...

I have particular interest in flying the heavy jets, and have found this product useful in analysing flight phases.  However, the Vspeeds differ according to weight/flap configurations and as such is not dynamically calculated.  Is there a way for this to be incorporated?

During some flights, ATC diverts me away from my original flight route and vectors me around an airfield to approach from a different direction.  I guess this is in the absence of FS9 incorporating any approach charts.  Does FSFlying School cater for this deviation in routing, dictated by ATC, and therefore not penalise for veering off course?

I think the general question has been posted elsewhere, but is there any intention for a checklist style instruction being implemented, that is a bit more detailed in checking for altitudes, speed (plus any restrictions due to airspace) etc?  the implementation of which may be aircraft configurable.

 

Hi PicoPeck,

Welcome to the FSFlyingSchool Forum.

This is a very good question! Your question has been forwarded to our SquadronLeader His name is Jeff. I do believe there is a way around this, however, I only have the basic knoweledge of creating an .fsu file and airport files. I am sure that your question will be one that many others have been pondering about too. Like myself for instance. In the forum, there are many helpfull tips and hints about FSFlyingSchool Program / Product. I would recommend looking around in the forum for topic that would catch your eyes. You may also reply to a topic or quote a topic that you have just read that had interested you. We are pleased to have you onboard.

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Posted Thursday, April 30, 2009 2:14:10 AM


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Welcome PicoPeck!

Garrick - thanks for making an interested aviator welcome!

Your questions and points are most interesting. It's best if I reply by assuming nothing about your knowledge of the product and also by describing some of the things that we are looking at adding to the product.

>> I have particular interest in flying the heavy jets, and have found this product useful in analysing flight phases.  However, the Vspeeds differ according to weight/flap configurations and as such is not dynamically calculated.  Is there a way for this to be incorporated?

Right now V1, Vr and V2 can be input into the Flight Plan page and are called off during take off, and of course the aicraft's own FSFS data will directly or indirectly reflect some other V speeds, but none of this is dynamic at present. It has always been our stated intention to add logic that would take into account changing weights, weather etc when calling for flaps etc, but this is not yet in the product. At present I can say that we are working on this but cannot give a release date yet. I will be a while.

>> During some flights, ATC diverts me away from my original flight route and vectors me around an airfield to approach from a different direction.  I guess this is in the absence of FS9 incorporating any approach charts.  Does FSFlying School cater for this deviation in routing, dictated by ATC, and therefore not penalise for veering off course?

It is not presently possible for FSFS to track what ATC is telling the pilot in any detail and the way we, and other add-on manufacturers, have managed this issue is to make the adherence to flight plan waypoints a small source of extra points, but not an overriding factor.

The instructor's analysis of the approach is a different case entirely. Basically once you are on final the instructor is watching you like a hawk. But this works fine with ATC, even if they call for a go-around, which the FSFS pilot can simulate by pressing the FSFS keys to revert back out of a landing mode into cruise mode. Then when the landing finally occurs, the closely monitored final will be what determines a lot of the points for that landing.

When we fly, here at our Sinister Lab , we fly with ATC and follow their instructions. Your FSFS instructor will not complain unless you are wandering off course during final approach.

>> I think the general question has been posted elsewhere, but is there any intention for a checklist style instruction being implemented, that is a bit more detailed in checking for altitudes, speed (plus any restrictions due to airspace) etc?  the implementation of which may be aircraft configurable.

This is something we are certainly working on right now. What we are not looking to do is to give the product a check list oriented feel - there are lots of other products our there already that do this very well and that is not what FSFlyingSchool is trying to do.

What we do plan to introduce is a lot more detail to the experience whereby the instructor will be watching to see that altitudes are being met at the right time, according to the flight plan and indeed according to the rules of flying, such as VFR and IFR altitudes based on aircraft route, monitoring speed limits, etc. This is a complex area, as at present FSFS is of course a single product for big and small aircraft alike, and we also have to consider to what extent we would attempt to model the different rules and regulations for different countries.

I hope at least some of this helps - these are interesting questions - please let us know if you have more.

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Hi SL! Thank you for the compliment!

You have sure hit the nail right on the head about these very interesting questions. I am surprised how indepth both Q's & A's were incorporated together. I even learned something from this as well. Great posting Jeff!

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Thanks for the responses, they answered my questions perfectly.  The addition of more airspace rules is attractive and the explanation on how FSFS tracks landings is interesting.  I'll give the demo another go by flying circuits around Chicago and see how I fair!

I look forward to future updates and will be purchasing the full product on next payday.

Thanks again, and happy flying to you all!

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PicoPeck (4/30/2009)
Thanks for the responses, they answered my questions perfectly. The addition of more airspace rules is attractive and the explanation on how FSFS tracks landings is interesting. I'll give the demo another go by flying circuits around Chicago and see how I fair!

I look forward to future updates and will be purchasing the full product on next payday.

Thanks again, and happy flying to you all!




Hi PicoPeck,

It is our pleasure to be of help to you anytime. I agree with you on the idea of more airspace rules being attractive and in regards to the explanation on how FSFS tracks Landings. I hope you do purchase FSFlyingSchool 2009, you won't regret it! I am in the process of creating all the North American Non-ILS file for all the airports. They will be uploaded to the Sinister Lab and once they have tested them, they should be available for all of the pilots here on FSFS to use during their flights. After all this is complete, I will work on the Standards United States Non-ILS airports as well. I am a programmer, and I am Microsoft Certified, A++ Certified, C++ Certified, etc., in the knowledge and expertise of it,and many years of flight simulator programing and aircraft developement addon's that I do have a Guarantee that they do work in the Standards of Microsoft FlightSimulator 2004. Now I am currently working on the new aircraft files and Liveries for FSX. It is a work in the making among other things. Feel free to ask all of us here any questions that you may have about the new FSFlyingSchool 2009 Product and other things as well. We are happy that you are here with us.

You have a wonderful weekend!

Regards,

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Posted Friday, May 01, 2009 1:39:35 AM


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Hi PicoPeck,

It is our pleasure to be of help to you anytime. I agree with you on the idea of more airspace rules being attractive and in regards to the explanation on how FSFS tracks Landings. I hope you do purchase FSFlyingSchool 2009, you won't regret it! I am in the process of creating all the North American Non-ILS file for all the airports. They will be uploaded to the Sinister Lab and once they have tested them, they should be available for all of the pilots here on FSFS to use during their flights. After all this is complete, I will work on the Standards United States Non-ILS airports as well. I am a programmer, and I am Microsoft Certified, A++ Certified, C++ Certified, etc., in the knowledge and expertise of it,and many years of flight simulator programing and aircraft developement addon's that I do have a Guarantee that they do work in the Standards of Microsoft FlightSimulator 2004. Now I am currently working on the new aircraft files and Liveries for FSX. It is a work in the making among other things. Feel free to ask all of us here any questions that you may have about the new FSFlyingSchool 2009 Product and other things as well. We are happy that you are here with us.

You have a wonderful weekend!

Regards,

CaptGarrick.



Garrick. I wonder... You wanna make non-ils runway files for the entire USA? But I hope you realize that FSFS does that for you, in one single keystroke. I know that you can make your own files, to have better landing spots than the edge, BUT, the very reason the edge of the runways was chosen by FSFS developers, was that every other point on the runways differ. SO my question is - How would you expect anyone to know where you made the marks. No marks are done on the actual runway so it might be a big problem for others to benefit from your huge workload.

Joe have made a runwayfile set for the Hawaiian tour, and gave that to me, but even if he made me pics of how he chose spots from the different runways (and this is only 21) I found that I cannot use them. Gotta make them myself.....

I hope you take this into consideration before setting out on this mighty journey of work.


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Hi PicoPeck,

It is our pleasure to be of help to you anytime. I agree with you on the idea of more airspace rules being attractive and in regards to the explanation on how FSFS tracks Landings. I hope you do purchase FSFlyingSchool 2009, you won't regret it! I am in the process of creating all the North American Non-ILS file for all the airports. They will be uploaded to the Sinister Lab and once they have tested them, they should be available for all of the pilots here on FSFS to use during their flights. After all this is complete, I will work on the Standards United States Non-ILS airports as well. I am a programmer, and I am Microsoft Certified, A++ Certified, C++ Certified, etc., in the knowledge and expertise of it,and many years of flight simulator programing and aircraft developement addon's that I do have a Guarantee that they do work in the Standards of Microsoft FlightSimulator 2004. Now I am currently working on the new aircraft files and Liveries for FSX. It is a work in the making among other things. Feel free to ask all of us here any questions that you may have about the new FSFlyingSchool 2009 Product and other things as well. We are happy that you are here with us.

You have a wonderful weekend!

Regards,

CaptGarrick.



Garrick. I wonder... You wanna make non-ils runway files for the entire USA? But I hope you realize that FSFS does that for you, in one single keystroke. I know that you can make your own files, to have better landing spots than the edge, BUT, the very reason the edge of the runways was chosen by FSFS developers, was that every other point on the runways differ. SO my question is - How would you expect anyone to know where you made the marks. No marks are done on the actual runway so it might be a big problem for others to benefit from your huge workload.

Joe have made a runwayfile set for the Hawaiian tour, and gave that to me, but even if he made me pics of how he chose spots from the different runways (and this is only 21) I found that I cannot use them. Gotta make them myself.....

I hope you take this into consideration before setting out on this mighty journey of work.

Thank you Ole,

I didn't think of that!

I believe you are correct on that one Ole!

Like you said, it's good for some and not others; also, as you had mentioned : [No marks are done on the actual runway so it might be a big problem for others to benefit from your huge workload.] Which is true! I'd better think very hard on this matter, even though I am Microsoft Certified and a Flight Simulator Developer, it is not always going to work with other programs such as the most wonderful FSFlyingSchool. I very much appreciate your feed back on that! I am going to start consulting you as my Cheif of Staff for my future Flight Simulator development endeavors!

Hope you will have a great flight troughout the Hawwain Tour! Enjoy it! Most importantly, Have a Blast!

Will see you in the Flight OPS. Looking forward to seeing your excellent scores Ole.

Thank you once again for that information.

Cheers my friend.

Garrick.


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Thanks for all your comments.

I have now purchased the full version and am very impressed!

Can't wait for updates!

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PicoPeck:

Many thanks for purchasing the product - we hope you enjoy the heck out of it.

We're very keen to have our customers submit a customer review of the product whenever possible as this helps others decide if FSFS is right for them and spreads the word. The more it spreads, the more we can achieve in our efforts to make this the best it can be.

The 'review' can be as short as a single sentence - no problem.

If you have time, could you submit a customer review at either:

http://www.FSPilotShop.com

(You do not need to have purchased from them)

or

http://www.amazon.co.uk

(You need to have purchased something from them - does not need to be FSFlyingSchool)

If you have time - this would be much appreciated.

Also - calling all other FSFS pilots! 

NOTAM ('Notice to Airmen')  (Hey - and all you ladies our there too!)

If you have not yet done so - please submit a review - they really, really help us and this means we can produce more free updates.



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