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Hi SL, Please, trust me, I'm having a blast with your FSFlyingSchool. Nothing make my night better when I get the best of ol' Mr. Smith. I'm sure others maybe have asked, so I thought I'd ask a few things that maybe can be considered for next release of your software: 1. Granted, I know this software is designed to make you a better pilot, and all so especially the landing. However, can you consider the following: Somehow, your program knows how to get all the hooks from the flight. Is it possible to not take off so much for using the A/P on long flights? Here's where I"m going with it. Yes I'm trying to get the most points each time, but I have a heck of a time keeping a plane trimmed at 35000 feet, that I find myself battling the ATC..."you are 300 above/below your assigned altitude..." that it really drives me crazy. So here's what I'm wondering. Somehow figure out that if you are on a flight above 20FL, for a period of longer than 2 hours (ex.) that you can use A/P and not get points taken away. And then when you start your descent down, you have a certain amount of time to turn off A/P and bring it in manually? I'll have that plane all trimmed out finally, upper jetstream winds with blow me around, then I spend all my time porposing up and down, messing with speed....it just drives me nuts. I almost hate taking long flights to avoid not using A/P in quest of points. I know you can get good scores even though you have A/P engaged...unfortunately I don't have that feeling or score yet Summing up...somehow give credit for long flights, flight time, and using A/P without getting beat up? Maybe somehow if a flight is sustained at 10000 feet for "x" number of hours, so partial credit?
Joe MiniPresident/CEO/Chief Pilot for Joe Mini World Wide Tours, LLC. "If we get you to your destination in one piece, it's a miracle"
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Joe: This is an excellent idea - it means that the pilot still has to hand fly the tricky stuff, but does not force pilots to hand fly the dull stuff. I can certainly see that this could be something to pop into the next version! First class award for coming up with something which is simple and yet powerful - that's exactly the sort of thing we like to see coming from the forum.
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SquadronLeader (9/2/2008)
Joe: This is an excellent idea - it means that the pilot still has to hand fly the tricky stuff, but does not force pilots to hand fly the dull stuff. I can certainly see that this could be something to pop into the next version! First class award for coming up with something which is simple and yet powerful - that's exactly the sort of thing we like to see coming from the forum. I was trying to type what you said in about 1 sentence. There isn't a whole lot of communcations from Mr. Smith and Co. when we are up at FLxxx, unless of course you are "combat" flying. I'm not sure what that flight level is, because that would depend on the aircraft you are flying....(ie Cessna above 5000' or a heavy above 15,000'). Not sure what that "flight" level would be or length, I just know those long hauls are killers...." Thanks for listening, and I'll hang up and listen....
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Quite so - we'd need to vary it with each aircraft, or aircraft type, perhaps simply 'lights' and 'heavies'. We've added this to the list and I'll keep you posted.
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Greetings Squadron Leader....
Biggles reporting for duty (with my best snappy salute) !!!
As a matter of discussion, I've flown a few rigs at friends homes, and none of their planes will maintain a constant altitude.
(Saitek Yoke, CH Yoke, AV8r Joystick, or Force Feedback joystick) so it's not the pilot that is the issue...and it's not a sensitivity issue.....I've tried many many settings to try to overcome the porpoise effect (and ATC constantly yapping at me)
Maybe it's just me, but I noticed the drop/rise in altitude was worse if I went to an outside view, then returned to the cockpit view. I'd be interested if Joe Mini or anyone else experiences that anomolly.
Being the snoop I am - I found a setting in fsx.cfg called "autotrim" and set it "autotrim=true".
My Dash8 loves it !!! And ATC haven't yelled at me today for the first time.
(But my Pilatus PC12 warning siren goes off - I'll fix that too!)
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Biggles is back! We're certainly looking at helping out the poor pilot on those long cruises - little or no penalty for AP during those legs of the trip - coming soon. It seems to me, unless I am missing something, that unless the weather is "clear" with no wind or pressure changes or gusting or turbulence etc then it should be necessary for the pilot to trim the aircraft, if not constantly then at least 'often', as just about any external force can potentially knock it out of trim and cause the altitude to vary... I have no idea what the setting you mention does - sounds interesting... Hopefully the enhancement to the AP penalty logic will offer an attractive alternative to all FSFS simmers.
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SL:It will certenly be a great thing, to be able to let AP do some of the boring stuff, without taking a blow for it. Biggles: I don´t know about the autotrim thing either. Wouldn´t it be considered cheating SL? What I have found is that paying great attention to the small details helps my flying a lot. I have experienced the same as you Biggles, that when going form one view to another, the trimdetails seems to get lost just a little, and you have to juuuuust finetune again. I think it´s because I cannot see the instruments from outside view, and so lose the feeling a little, but what do I know? And SL: I have to tell you that the focusing on the centerline really really helped me. I just did a 111 point landing in the Learjet on leg 9, and even though there is still long way up to Joe, he flies a different aircraft capable of doing higher scores. I jumped 3 feet up in the air, when getting the 111. Jumped for joy I did Boy I love FSFS. Enhances your flying a zilion times.
Regards
Ole Andreasen, Denmark
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Ole: Thanks for the kind words! Sounds like you're having fun with the landing scores and that's the main thing. If I recall, you mentioned that rudder pedals would soon be under your feet... Now then - I am going to expect to see some cool scores from you as you master the fine art of the crosswind landing.
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Biggles (9/15/2008) Greetings Squadron Leader.... Biggles reporting for duty (with my best snappy salute) !!!
As a matter of discussion, I've flown a few rigs at friends homes, and none of their planes will maintain a constant altitude. (Saitek Yoke, CH Yoke, AV8r Joystick, or Force Feedback joystick) so it's not the pilot that is the issue...and it's not a sensitivity issue.....I've tried many many settings to try to overcome the porpoise effect (and ATC constantly yapping at me)
Maybe it's just me, but I noticed the drop/rise in altitude was worse if I went to an outside view, then returned to the cockpit view. I'd be interested if Joe Mini or anyone else experiences that anomolly.
Being the snoop I am - I found a setting in fsx.cfg called "autotrim" and set it "autotrim=true".
My Dash8 loves it !!! And ATC haven't yelled at me today for the first time.
(But my Pilatus PC12 warning siren goes off - I'll fix that too!)
Well that's what kinda led to this posting. It seems like even under perfect conditions, I'm having to watch the trim/altitude in my opinion way to much. In fact, I've only made one flight of over 200nm without A/P, and managed to do the whole thing without once getting the "you are 300 above/below your assigned altitude". I was a little taxed after doing that one. But I did feel a sense of accomplishment for doing it. And if like you said I go out of the airplane for an outside view and come back, it seems like in less that 30 seconds, I'm way off the marks again...just get frustrating, because as hard as I try to get it set up trim/thrust etc....i spend a whole lot of time watching it versus what I should be doing is looking out the airplane for traffic, etc! You (well me) might as well forget it with real world weather and long trips. At that point, the A/P comes on and I just try my best to get a good score, which really I've had a couple good one's in the high 80's to I think once above 100. What I do now is take off, level off at cruise...put the A/P on...and when I start my desent, turn off all the A/P stuff and bring it in.
Joe MiniPresident/CEO/Chief Pilot for Joe Mini World Wide Tours, LLC. "If we get you to your destination in one piece, it's a miracle"
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Joe Mini:
As a matter of interest, I'm taking this Flying VERY seriously. In-so-far as doing things properly, correctly, the right order. My goal eventually is to get a real pilot's license. (FS/x is a lot cheaper than renting a plane, instructor, and classroom for hours)
Having said that, I'm flying 'VFR' - the first thing that's taught. And eventually be proficient at VFR and move on to IFR, VOR, and auto-pilot. So for now, I'm not using the autopilot as that is 'advanced' for my training.
But I think, (like you) AP most of the way, and manually land the plane.
Biggles
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