AIRCRAFT CRASHED
National Aeronautical Safety Board Findings:
* Vertical Speed: -108 fpm
* AGL: 0 feet
* Bank: -2 degrees
* Ground Speed: 66 kts
* IAS: 57 kts
* Pitch: -1 degrees
* COM1: Standard
* Visibility: 7 nm
* Eng1: Running
* On Ground immediately prior to crash

Flight Score:0.00 (Flight did not include take off...)

Flight commended in the following areas:
* Smooth turns.
* Nice banking.
* Correct matching of flaps to speeds.
* Comfortable G forces.
* Smooth pitch control.
* Flown within aircraft's maximum speed limit.
* Gentle taxi turns.
* Appropriate position of flaps during taxi.
* Safe taxi speed.
* Smooth braking during taxi.
* Well coordinated turns.
* Pitch not too high.
* Pitch not too low.
* Flaps down on time.
* Approach speed not too fast.
* Low altitude speeds not too fast.
* Good clearance of obstacles.
  
Flight included the following problems:
* Wings not level near ground - danger of clipping a wing.
* Dangerous stalls - don't let that happen again.
* Rapid descent - dangerous and uncomfortable.
* Poorly trimmed aircraft - trimmers are there to help: use them.
Definite room for improvement...

Hmmm - this is a pretty problem...

Sorry to hear it's going on because the stats about the crash certainly don't look like it should be considered a crash.

Do you get normal results when landing other aircraft?

Attention all pilots! If you have time - can you do a landing in the Grand Caravan with FSFS2009 2.2 and let us know the results? Any problems?

When an instructor says what you have reported it is because he or she figures the plane is a write-off, even if FS has not actually announced a crash. This can happen a fair amount in FS (no crash reported but you cannot fly the plane) and so we created logic to handle it. There may be something about the Grand Caravan that is misleading FSFS, but it has not shown before in tests.

Let us know about those other planes.

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Thanks so much.

Then for giggles, I did take off and landed extremely hard (ie tried to crash it) and I got the crash and NTSB popup, so I don't seem to be having difficulties....

Joe Mini

President/CEO/Chief Pilot for Joe Mini World Wide Tours, LLC. 
"If we get you to your destination in one piece, it's a miracle"  

Aircraft: Cessna    ID: N208LN    Airline: Landmark    Flight: 1123
Flight plan:     NAV1: IOQV

AIRCRAFT CRASHED
National Aeronautical Safety Board Findings:
* Vertical Speed: -85 fpm
* AGL: 0 feet
* Bank: 3 degrees
* Ground Speed: 66 kts
* IAS: 60 kts
* Pitch: 6 degrees
* COM1: Standard
* Visibility: 4 nm
* Eng1: Running
* On Ground immediately prior to crash

Flight Score:0.00 (Flight did not include take off...)

Flight commended in the following areas:
* Correct matching of flaps to speeds.
* Comfortable G forces.
* Smooth pitch control.
* Flown within aircraft's maximum speed limit.
* Gentle taxi turns.
* Appropriate position of flaps during taxi.
* Safe taxi speed.
* Smooth braking during taxi.
* Wings level near ground.
* Well coordinated turns.
* No stalls.
* No flying dangerously close to stall speed.
* Smooth comfortable descent rate.
* Pitch not too high.
* Pitch not too low.
* Flaps down on time.
* Approach speed not too fast.
* Low altitude speeds not too fast.
* Good clearance of obstacles.
  
Flight included the following problems:
* Rough turns - your passengers spilt their drinks and have a pain in their necks.
* Steep banking - save your aerobatic flying for some other time.
* Poorly trimmed aircraft - trimmers are there to help: use them.
Definite room for improvement...

perhaps my airspeed was too low upon touchdown? I tried a flight before, and got an 85.

I'll keep trying. Maybe its just a difficult plane to land just right.

Thanks for jumping into the cockpit and flying some test flights. This is much appreciated and greatly helps resolve these tricky ones.

jplaist001:

It's all very odd. The instructor normally says this "I think you crashed the plane" when it is clearly a write-off as in... on ground, dead still, and banked 40 degrees - this sort of thing. It's not happening for us here in the Sinister Lab  nor for Joe at least, so perhaps there is something about your system which is different. We'll think about it...

Jeff Preston ('Squadron Leader') - FSFlyingSchool Publisher & Lead Developer


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