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Posted Sunday, May 22, 2011 12:43:15 PM
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Hi All

I'm sure this is a silly question given that the name of the program is "FS Flying School", but perhaps I'm missing the obvious.. (This would not be unusual.)

My question is, does "FSFlyingSchool2010" actually include a series of flight lessons for the complete novice. Something to be run alongside, or instead of, the ones supplied as part of "FSX".

I've read a number of reviews and watched a couple of videos and everything I've seen seems to concentrate on pilots who already have their virtual wings as it were and who now want to improve their technique. Advice and hints on things you are already doing, but want to do better.

But what about those of us who would like to take flying lessons with the instructor from scratch. Is there anything in there for the complete novice who finds he gets on ok with "FSX"'s basic lessons up to a point (not mentioning any names...ok it's me!) but then hits a brick wall and can't stuff any more into his aching brain?

I've had many frustrated uninstalls but always seem to end up back in the cockpit and starting from scratch. I'm just now contemplating yet another fresh install of "FSX" and a fresh instructor at my side might be just what the Badger ordered.

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Badger (5/22/2011)
Hi All

I'm sure this is a silly question given that the name of the program is "FS Flying School", but perhaps I'm missing the obvious.. (This would not be unusual.)

My question is, does "FSFlyingSchool2010" actually include a series of flight lessons for the complete novice. Something to be run alongside, or instead of, the ones supplied as part of "FSX".

I've read a number of reviews and watched a couple of videos and everything I've seen seems to concentrate on pilots who already have their virtual wings as it were and who now want to improve their technique. Advice and hints on things you are already doing, but want to do better.

But what about those of us who would like to take flying lessons with the instructor from scratch. Is there anything in there for the complete novice who finds he gets on ok with "FSX"'s basic lessons up to a point (not mentioning any names...ok it's me!) but then hits a brick wall and can't stuff any more into his aching brain?

I've had many frustrated uninstalls but always seem to end up back in the cockpit and starting from scratch. I'm just now contemplating yet another fresh install of "FSX" and a fresh instructor at my side might be just what the Badger ordered.

Badger




Badger.

First of all. Don´t uninstall FSX in frustration. Let it go for a few days, but keep it there for when you are ready to go back. At some point you wont need the days off anymore, and you are hooked, like the rest of us Flight Sim junkies.

You are partially right that FSFlyingSchool does concentrate on adding to your skills - more than building them from scratch.

What it does is to comment on your flying. And this, I find, is a far better way than the tutorial flights in FSX itself. Not that the tutorial flights are bad. I just like to do things my own way, and have Mr. Smith hammer me down for it. That´s learning the hard way, and its often quite shocking, I tell you.

But if you are in the starting phases of FSX, then I suggest you actually do the tutorial flights in FSX. They are very educational-minded, so you will get the basic hang of flying. You can even have Mr. Smith on at the same time, as he will also tell you what you didnt do so hot)

And then add Mr. Smith (FSFlyingSchool) to your normal flights, and simply let him babble on, while you do what you normally do. I absolutely promise you that in no time flat, you will feel forced to fly your straight and level flights - straight and level, simply to stop Mr. Smith from telling you, WHOA.... your bank is too steep, bring it back, and so on, and so on. You will start to make those tiny adjustments instead of big over-responsive changes, and Mr. Smith will love you for it, and in deep gratitude - keep silent. You can´t have bigger praise from Smith, than his silence.

I thought I was a hotshot pilot when I learned about FSFlyingSchool, and Mr. Smith promptly handed out zero scores front and aft, and I felt like kicking his hairy butt, but what I did, was to go up there again, and start to listen to him, and behave accordingly. And now I can´t make a steep turn (even without FSFlyingSchool started) without hearing him telling me off, in my head.

So yes, FSFlyingSchool adds to your flyingskills, more than teach you the basics of flying, BUT, you do NOT need your virtual Wings to gain from FSFlyingSchool. Not at all. It does not take you anywhere, and tell you to do this or that. No fixed situations. It just comments on everything you do up there, and rate it accordingly, when you have landed. and that is simply great for both new pilots and oldies. Everyone can benefit hugely from that.

If you are fairly new, then start out with a Cessna or something small, and listen to Smith. He, and FSFlyingSchool are just the best addon for teaching you, as a pilot, to fly properly.

And please report back on how you do. Any questions - ask. Friendly people around here....


Regards
Ole Andreasen, Denmark

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Posted Monday, May 23, 2011 2:01:41 AM


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Badger and Ole - this is an interesting discussion.

Badger - Ole is right on the money as usual. I can't really think of much to add, but for what it's worth...

Keep in mind that with FSFS you also get a lot more than an instructor who gives you guidance. You also get tools such as the Career Analyzer and the Pilot Briefing which look at the stats from your flight and tell you what you are doing wrong and right overall.

They will help you identify those things you are mastering or even, perhaps, bad habits that you are starting to develop!

You also get a lot of fun stuff like a detailed simulation of all kinds of failures AND Mr Smith and his colleagues watch out for other traffic, which makes the whole thing more realistic and teaches you to watch what the heck you are doing on the ground as well as in the air.

Also, when you enter 'Circuit Mode' with the instructor, you do get very detailed information on exactly what you are expected to do next, but be advised to fly around and get the basics of flight down first before you try this as it is very demanding.

Finally - remember that you can try all our products for free.

So Badger - have fun!

Ole - thanks again for your help! 

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Posted Monday, May 23, 2011 6:36:30 AM
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Good Afternoon there Pilots, many thanks for such speedy and friendly replies.

oleandreasen (5/22/2011)
First of all. Don´t uninstall FSX in frustration. Let it go for a few days, but keep it there for when you are ready to go back.

Wise words indeed and you are of course completely right.

I have a little corner of my PC screen called "Sim Corner" and the sims that live there are resident all the time. Since adopting this policy last year, I heve walked away from them, but I leave them in place knowing I'll be back. They include (to name a few)"Falcon 4", "1946", "Black Shark" Recently "BoB 2 Wings of Victory" and of course my old friend "FSX".

The twin curse of a butterfly mind and low tech smarts, mean that all of these have the capacity to frustrate and confound me. But for some reason "FSX" these days stands alone in its ability to drive me to the uninstall button.

In fairness to myself I have to say that I didn't actually delete it this time around. My PC went pear shaped and I was without it for a couple of months. When it got back, I'd lost everything! Still this doesn't excuse my usual treatment of "FSX", who obviously deserves much better.

So here I sit with FSX now freshly re-installed and my finger hovering over the buy button for "FSFS2010"..... I'll think on it some more.

Meanwhile I have to decide which order to reinstall the rest of the stuff for it! I have a Traffic program and "Flying Club X" and "Air Hauler" which of the three will not be getting a reinstall.

I've always loved the idea of staying with "FSX" long enough to learn how to fly the big boys and with that in mind I bought "Air Hauler" as I really liked the idea of having a point to my flying. (Truth is I really wanted "Airliner Pilot" but they've never updated it for "FSX". Very Odd.) But I was quite unprepared for its insistence on jobs being flown in real time! With breaks taken from the PC counted against your company. Such an odd programming decision.

But of course I digress and I really must stop doing that.

Thanks again for the good advice

All the best

Badger


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